pHEN
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Post by pHEN on Jun 12, 2006 14:20:38 GMT -5
That big bad, frightening yet slightly pudgy Islamic Al-Qaeda leader, Abu Musab Al Zarqawi was killed in an airstrike recently, marking the greatest US vistory since the capture of Saddam Hussein (who enjoys rock paper scissors). I find it amusing that people say Bush is responsible for this (I mean come on, it was the military and the CIA. Bush just kept the troops in, and yet he gets the benefits. Kinda' messed up) however irregardless...
How much affect with this actually carry?
I doubt it will be very much, if any, in the long run. There are 100,000 people willing to step up and replace him anyway, not to mention some who might be smarter and thus harder to catch.
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Guan Yu
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Post by Guan Yu on Jun 13, 2006 10:37:49 GMT -5
Only a bit, things don't seem to be happening about it now, could change, but doubtful, if it does, it won't change a lot.
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Post by Huang Zhong on Jun 14, 2006 9:01:10 GMT -5
Mike, Bush IS responsible for this. It's his government and as far as I know, the military and the CIA are working for the GOVERNMENT. But offcourse, I'm not a teacher americanism.
No-one ever heard about the guy before this, and only the Iraqi people could be reliefed to hear he's dead. But, as you said yourself, there will be plenty of others to take his place. The "War Against Terrorism" is far from over!
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Post by pHEN on Jun 14, 2006 16:39:55 GMT -5
Mike, Bush IS responsible for this. It's his government and as far as I know, the military and the CIA are working for the GOVERNMENT. But offcourse, I'm not a teacher americanism. Did Bush make the order to go there at that time and bomb that area? No. He had nothing to do with it. He may not have even known 'till after the bombers were on the way. Yet the air force doesn't get a pay raise. Yet the CIA doesn't get a pay raise. George Bush's popularity rises to roughly 2/5 (40%). The Republican Party milks the opportunity of propaganda, the Democrats try to bring attention to the innocents killed in the attack and turn the other cheek. The hypocrisy goes on, and the people who ware REALLY responsible don't get shit. Not the informant, not the air force, not the CIA. Nada. Fair? I think no, persoanlly. But you can stick to your half-intelligent Political figureheads if you wish.
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Post by General Pang on Jun 15, 2006 3:22:40 GMT -5
Zarqawi wasn't actually killed in an airstrike. In case you guys didn't know, here's how he really died- zarqawimped.ytmnd.com/
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Post by Shang Xi on Jun 15, 2006 4:09:51 GMT -5
That's great, Pang. But, I had heard of Zarqawi. I just couldn't pronounce his name. But yeah it won't do shit.
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Post by General Pang on Jun 15, 2006 4:49:18 GMT -5
BTW I voted nuclear war. It's on the horizon and you guys know it. Zarqawi's death will trigger the greatest holocaust since WWII. > Or maybe I will....
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Post by Huang Zhong on Jun 15, 2006 8:56:17 GMT -5
Mike, Bush IS responsible for this. It's his government and as far as I know, the military and the CIA are working for the GOVERNMENT. But offcourse, I'm not a teacher americanism. Did Bush make the order to go there at that time and bomb that area? No. He had nothing to do with it. He may not have even known 'till after the bombers were on the way. Yet the air force doesn't get a pay raise. Yet the CIA doesn't get a pay raise. George Bush's popularity rises to roughly 2/5 (40%). The Republican Party milks the opportunity of propaganda, the Democrats try to bring attention to the innocents killed in the attack and turn the other cheek. The hypocrisy goes on, and the people who ware REALLY responsible don't get shit. Not the informant, not the air force, not the CIA. Nada. Fair? I think no, persoanlly. But you can stick to your half-intelligent Political figureheads if you wish. Bush gave the order to go to Iraq. Bush is the Commander-In-Chief of your military forces and the CIA. They ALL work for him and have only carried out their job, just like the drugdealer sells his dope so his drugbaron can make money. That's life.
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pHEN
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Post by pHEN on Jun 17, 2006 0:15:37 GMT -5
Did Bush make the order to go there at that time and bomb that area? No. He had nothing to do with it. He may not have even known 'till after the bombers were on the way. Yet the air force doesn't get a pay raise. Yet the CIA doesn't get a pay raise. George Bush's popularity rises to roughly 2/5 (40%). The Republican Party milks the opportunity of propaganda, the Democrats try to bring attention to the innocents killed in the attack and turn the other cheek. The hypocrisy goes on, and the people who ware REALLY responsible don't get shit. Not the informant, not the air force, not the CIA. Nada. Fair? I think no, persoanlly. But you can stick to your half-intelligent Political figureheads if you wish. Bush gave the order to go to Iraq. Bush is the Commander-In-Chief of your military forces and the CIA. They ALL work for him and have only carried out their job, just like the drugdealer sells his dope so his drugbaron can make money. That's life. If that's life then I look foreward to death! Since when has life comprised of working so some fat, lazy-ass political figurehead can rise in the polls and get all the credit you deserve? Woops, my bad, that's how modern (post-Tribal) civilization is supposed to work... If a man tells a carpenter to make a chair, and the carpenter does so, but in the meantime makes a damn awesome chair, both sturdy and artistically sound, who gets the credit? The man who said to make the chair or the one who made it? I doubt it. I used to think so, but I seriously doubt it now. I think there's be war, but not Nuclear to the extent that 'nuclear war' implies. Maybe I'm just being optomistic...
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Post by Huang Zhong on Jun 17, 2006 4:41:19 GMT -5
If that's life then I look foreward to death! Since when has life comprised of working so some fat, lazy-ass political figurehead can rise in the polls and get all the credit you deserve? Woops, my bad, that's how modern (post-Tribal) civilization is supposed to work... If a man tells a carpenter to make a chair, and the carpenter does so, but in the meantime makes a damn awesome chair, both sturdy and artistically sound, who gets the credit? The man who said to make the chair or the one who made it? I really don't think you can compare Bush to a man that orders a carpenter to make him a chair. Besides, Bush gave orders to kill all terrorists, cause as far as I know, no Western government negotiates with terrorists. Which means, the CIA and the bombers didn't do anything extraordinary. Plus, something you don't seem to WANT to udnerstand is that these people of the military and CIA are doing their damned JOBS! They came to those subscribing offices themselves to become a special agent or soldier. It was their own choice! I don't think you give an hotdog seller so much credit because he sells hotdogs, do you? No, you don't give a shit. So why would you give a shit if a soldier does his job?
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Post by General Pang on Jun 17, 2006 5:03:49 GMT -5
Sorry Erik but you're wrong about this. There's a reason why MacArthur and not the US president, for instance, is accredited for successes in the Pacific and post-war reconstruction of Japan.
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Post by Huang Zhong on Jun 17, 2006 5:11:12 GMT -5
That recontrusting and it's not about America. It's about Japan, and the US government send that dude to reconstruct it. So, it's obvious he gets credit, even though he wouldn't have gotten if the US government didn't send him. Which makes the US government responsible. And thus they should receive credit too. Why doesn't anyone of you seem to understand this?
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Guan Yu
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Post by Guan Yu on Jun 17, 2006 5:36:25 GMT -5
Zarqawi was an irl n00b anyway.
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Post by Huang Zhong on Jun 17, 2006 10:24:40 GMT -5
Zarqawi was an irl n00b anyway. What is 'irl' ?
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Post by Mortiss on Jun 17, 2006 10:39:59 GMT -5
Society needs a good war these days, thats why the youths of today are such a problem. In the old days all the scroats joined the army and were sent shooting people. These days there are no wars to kille m off so they stay at home being dicks.
At least in Belfast you can guarntee some nob will get himself shot pretty much every day. Keeps the teenage population down. Of course I've never been shot but my mate took a bullet in his leg once which was pretty funny.
Anyway I'm getting off the point, I have no idea who this Iraqi prick is so I doubt it will actually do anything
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