Religion in Schools?

[pHEN]

I forsee a very one-sided answer to the poll in this one. yes or no? Why or why not?

It is ok to me...as long as every religion believed to have ever existed is represented equally. Which would never happen. (I think this was the point of Pastafarianism as well). So no. I'd flee to Canada (or maybe Germany or the Netherlands) if my school became a Baptist Church...

[Guan Yu]

Don't care myself, won't affect me, I don't think

[Liu Bei]

Yes! Bring it on, hell yeah, that'll be funny as I'll get to f*** with them all just a little more with the religion card.

[General Pang]

Not in public schools. In private schools I believe it should be ok of course. Religion, unfortunately, does not have much evidence, besides opinion and faith, to back it up. Because it mostly cannot be proven, I do not believe it should be preached in schools.

[pHEN]

kukiyoshitaka said:

Not in public schools. In private schools I believe it should be ok of course. Religion, unfortunately, does not have much evidence, besides opinion and faith, to back it up. Because it mostly cannot be proven, I do not believe it should be preached in schools.

Indeed, no religion or nonreligion is at all proven. And there is no way to NOT take 'the easy way out', as described by vocal atheists.

But private school should be ok, IMO. As long as all religions are allowed to make schools. Pastafarianism to Satanism to Christianity to Hinduism.

[General Pang]

The only problem with religion being preached in private schools is then we'll also have Scientology Schools. Then people will be indoctrinated with the idea that they should donate money to the corrupt Scientology Church in order to get their thetans removed. I guess Catholic schools might say similar things to get students to pay money to their institution though. Unfortunately some religions (Judaism, Catholicism) also preach stupid ideals to kids such as the notion that condoms and abortion are bad. :/

But it's ok. So long as religion is teached reasonably in private schools (no brainwashing!) then it's alright, including scientology. I'd make a school for atheism or maybe even I'd create one for pastafarianism for the hell of it. Parody religions like pastafarianism aren't really religions but still do help humans learn important lessons, on the folly of belief systems in general mainly.

I forsee a very one-sided answer to the poll in this one. yes or no? Why or why not?

My answer wouldn't be one-sided if your poll choices weren't one-sides. >:(

I would have voted for what I said-No in public, yes in private with the provision you added that any faith be able to preach their ideas in private schools.

[Huang Zhong]

Why?

I really don't see the use in religion at school. I have one hour in the week of religion. They could better give me a free hour so I can smoke some pod or something. It just is incredibly useless. If people want to have religion, then go to the places their religion is being preached. School is to learna nd get smart, not to be taught some crappy religions. Offcourse, you could say students learn something from every religion this way, but they could watch to SchoolTV too to find it out...

I say NO.

You don't want to have schools that preach socialism either, don't you?

[pHEN]

I was referring to public school primarily, Slick.

Parody religions like pastafarianism aren't really religions but still do help humans learn important lessons, on the folly of belief systems in general mainly.

Atheism is as much a belief system as any other religion. It is comforting in a more complex way, and is just as, if not an even more easy way out of uncertainty. But we will all view the world our own way anywho.

Erik, I would love to see intelligent (not popular, stupid, crowdist, tame) green-anarchy tought in schools alongside Capitalism, but then you have the problem of rebellion - Teens who see flaw in society rebel against what is tought in school, generally. If anarchy were tought as a school subject, would rebellious teenagers be running around with Communist patches?

I, for one, would laugh if I saw "St.Beelzebub's Luciferion Acadamy" beign built, or "North Texas Chthonic Learning Center ~ "Jesus saves, Allah forgives, and Chthulu thinks you may make a nice sandwich" moving into the neighborhood. But that won't ever happen.

[Huang Zhong]

But Mike, I think, just like the dead and once wise Max Weber, that school should be used to teach children, not to make them believe something. It's the same as when a history teacher tells children the Holocaust was good and the Germans were meant to win. He gives his own personal view on it and is in a position to force his students to learn this view and eventually they will think the same way as he does. Now I don't think that's the right way of doing it. You must give children either plenty of information so they can develop their own view, or don't give them any info about it, so they will have to find out themselves if they want to.

[Mortiss]

Pffft

Why not exactly? You think it will brainwash them? Balls to that. Kids are far more influenced by their parents and their friends than by anything the school does. If they are raised in a religious setting they will be religious, if their parents are not religious nor anybody they know then they wont be. The school will not change this by saying prayers or teaching R.E, nobody pays attention anyway when that shit is going on, I know I never did and I am fairly religious.

(That probally made no sense, but I dont care, it made sense to me)

[pHEN]

You'd be surprised how easily brainwashed the sheep are these days Mortiss. =/

[Huangfu Yuan]

If a number of different beliefs were taught (that is, say, Christianity, Islam, Daoism, Buddhism, and Paganism, for instance), it could give the students a more worldy view, provided that they were merely informed of the religion, not immersed in it. However, I doubt everyone can be trusted to keep personal bias out of their teaching.

[General Pang]

Atheism is as much a belief system as any other religion. It is comforting in a more complex way, and is just as, if not an even more easy way out of uncertainty. But we will all view the world our own way anywho.

I'm an atheist too Mike. By parody religions I was talking about things like Pastafarianism, which clearly isn't intended to be a real religion. :/

If a number of different beliefs were taught (that is, say, Christianity, Islam, Daoism, Buddhism, and Paganism, for instance), it could give the students a more worldy view, provided that they were merely informed of the religion, not immersed in it. However, I doubt everyone can be trusted to keep personal bias out of their teaching.

Learning about religions isn't learning, because you're not learning any facts, you're just learning stuff that humans made up. The things they said might be true, but seeing as their beliefs are based on nothing but bullsh*t about events that didn't happen hundreds of years ago, I don't feel it to be important to study religion.

On the other hand there are some ok lessons in religions, but most of the things that each religion preaches is crap. :/

Teens who see flaw in society rebel against what is tought in school, generally. If anarchy were tought as a school subject, would rebellious teenagers be running around with Communist patches?

Anarchy =/= communism. I take offense to that remark you capitalist pig. I am a proud communist, secret Soviet Union rebel and supporter of the PRC.

[Guo Huai]

mortis said:

Pffft

Why not exactly? You think it will brainwash them? Balls to that. Kids are far more influenced by their parents and their friends than by anything the school does. If they are raised in a religious setting they will be religious, if their parents are not religious nor anybody they know then they wont be. The school will not change this by saying prayers or teaching R.E, nobody pays attention anyway when that shit is going on, I know I never did and I am fairly religious.

(That probally made no sense, but I dont care, it made sense to me)

Not necessarily. I was raised in a religious family, religious setting(the south), and I am an Atheist. I also know people who grew up in non religious families and surroundings that now believe in god, go to church, and are sound believers in their faith.

[General Pang]

Quite often people like to rebel and go against whatever kind of environment they are raised in. It's a psychological/f*cked up thing.