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Post by Huang Zhong on Jul 6, 2006 17:09:27 GMT -5
I like those ideas. However, the latter will give the UN and Unicef nothing to do. So those can be resolved and their budgets put into finding a way to get green power for cheap. This site should be the worldwide government
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Post by Mortiss on Jul 6, 2006 17:09:30 GMT -5
thats rich. how many wars have you dragged us along too? All them had nothing to do with us, yet we still helped out, we are the only f***ing real friend America has and we f***ing hate you, which I think says something about Americas great foreign policy.
The UK does the best it can after America fucked it over after the second world war. We had been fighting the GURmans alone for a duration of the war. We halted the GURman advance forcing them to turn on Russia. What would America have done if we lost the battle of Britain? f*** all is what they would have done. They would have said right f*** Europe then if they have all fallen. Because we fought on and refused to surrender when all of Europe was falling under Nazi rule the Americans decided it might be worth helping out. Without the UK the Allies would not have won. Afterward once GURmany had surrendered what happened? America financed the rebuilding of GURmany and all the countries taken over by GURmany. Did they offer any help to the equally destroyed UK? Did they f***! The UK had to finance itself AND EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!! Thats what the UK got for winning the Second World War, the complete destruction of our economy.
Its a f***ing miracle that the UK even manages to remain a world presence considering how fucked up we were thanks to America, our so called f***ing friends. some f***ing friend. To make matters worse as soon as we ask for help America tells us to f*** off! The Falklands!!!!!!!!!! Where the f*** was America? Great allies you are, then just finance the IRA that we had been fighting. Oh but as soon as you have a problem with terrorists suddenly its everybodies responsibility!!!! THE UK HAD BEEN FIGHTING THE IRA (REAL f***ing TERRORISTS) AND AMERICA INSTEAD OF HELPING HINDERED THE UKS EFFORTS BY GIVING THEM f***ing MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GOD AMERICA MAKES ME SO f***ing MAD!!!!!!
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Post by Shang Xi on Jul 6, 2006 17:10:03 GMT -5
Very true. But capitalism is not the way, no communism. True socialism would be good, but an impossible dream because there will always be a ruling class. So a semi-socialist oligarchy with some democratic aspects would be good. Were I in a position to do something, I'd do it that way. Say a council of 5 or so of the best leaders (selected by me, but nothing's perfect), eliminate money as a trade medium and revert to pure barter (test that out in a semi-isolated enviroment, not sure if it would work on a large scale.), allow the cities/provinces/states to elect their immediate governor in a manner they deem fit. I could go on, but....
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Post by Huang Zhong on Jul 6, 2006 17:11:10 GMT -5
I think you have made your point quite clear, Mickey.
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Post by Shang Xi on Jul 6, 2006 17:21:41 GMT -5
thats rich. how many wars have you dragged us along too? All them had nothing to do with us, yet we still helped out, we are the only f***ing real friend America has and we f***ing hate you, which I think says something about Americas great foreign policy. The UK does the best it can after America fucked it over after the second world war. We had been fighting the GURmans alone for a duration of the war. We halted the GURman advance forcing them to turn on Russia. What would America have done if we lost the battle of Britain? f*** all is what they would have done. They would have said right f*** Europe then if they have all fallen. Because we fought on and refused to surrender when all of Europe was falling under Nazi rule the Americans decided it might be worth helping out. Without the UK the Allies would not have won. Afterward once GURmany had surrendered what happened? America financed the rebuilding of GURmany and all the countries taken over by GURmany. Did they offer any help to the equally destroyed UK? Did they f***! The UK had to finance itself AND EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!! Thats what the UK got for winning the Second World War, the complete destruction of our economy. Its a f***ing miracle that the UK even manages to remain a world presence considering how fucked up we were thanks to America, our so called f***ing friends. some f***ing friend. To make matters worse as soon as we ask for help America tells us to f*** off! The Falklands!!!!!!!!!! Where the f*** was America? Great allies you are, then just finance the IRA that we had been fighting. Oh but as soon as you have a problem with terrorists suddenly its everybodies responsibility!!!! THE UK HAD BEEN FIGHTING THE IRA (REAL f***ing TERRORISTS) AND AMERICA INSTEAD OF HELPING HINDERED THE UKS EFFORTS BY GIVING THEM f***ing MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GOD AMERICA MAKES ME SO f***ing MAD!!!!!! You are right that the UK helped a large deal in the defeat of Nazi Germany. And you are probably right that America would have done nothing if Britain had fallen. I've never claimed to be fiercely patriotic, and I don't care who likes or dislikes America. But at one point, the UK was the most powerful nation in the world, yet it did nothing to aid less fortunate people, except conquer them and force its own ways on them.
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Post by Sullivan on Jul 6, 2006 17:23:54 GMT -5
Did Rome not do the same? It is the way with every super power - you conquer those weaker than you and place your own influence on them. In the end it tends to be that nations down fall. Take Rome - it fell by the hands of its own people and its own weapons.
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Post by Shang Xi on Jul 6, 2006 17:25:02 GMT -5
It did indeed, but that is not my point.
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Post by pHEN on Jul 6, 2006 17:31:04 GMT -5
I like those ideas. However, the latter will give the UN and Unicef nothing to do. So those can be resolved and their budgets put into finding a way to get green power for cheap. This site should be the worldwide government Bear in mind: Hydropower is NOT green power. Ethanol is NOT green power, at least not en masse. Thjere won't be enough green power to transition in 15 years when coal, oil, and natural gas have peaked and energy is all gone. Except in 1/10 of America where wind is used, Iceland, and a few others...who will all be invaded for their energy. media.putfile.com/GURman Rome was f***ing gay and doesn't deserve a mention. It got its ass pwned by the barbarians because it couldn't get its head out of its ass, and I would have taken pride to take part in the sacking of such a useless empire.
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Post by Sullivan on Jul 6, 2006 17:34:07 GMT -5
Yes, yes, it became more and more useless as time went on, but I was merely using it as an example that England wasn't the only power to force their influence on other people, and at one point lose its power.
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Post by General Pang on Jul 6, 2006 17:38:04 GMT -5
You're right, Slick, but America also forced us to abandon our colonies While America actually just got their colony: West Europe. Anyway, I think the only thing I'll be grateful for to America is that they helped us out after WW2. Without mister Truman, Europe would never have recovered so fast. Though while America helped us in Europe, it forced the Sovjetunion into the defence, and thus who was to blame for the Cold War? That's right, America! Because of their enormous fear for Communism. Though I can understand their fear for communism... It was a difficult decision, but I think they made the right one. Though they could have done things better. Actually both are to blame for the Cold War. The Soviets were still hoping to expand since they still believed that communism would dominate the world and overturn capitalism, that the will of the people was with communism. America meanwhile was more into "containing" communism than spreading capitalism at first. They wouldn't think that for long though, of course. America later decided to f*ck with Korea, Nam and Cuba to bring those countries capitalism. Most of the time they failed, though in Korea they were moderately successful, because South Korea's a good partner and ally for the time being. As for the whole government debate, I think Erik pretty much hit it on the nail, even though he said it's more complicated than what he advised. The best system is neither capitalism or communism, but rather a steady mixture of capitalism with a few socialist elements. The government should, most importantly help out the poor and make sure their citizens are in good condition, that there is not that much crime and so forth. The US doesn't currently do this, which sucks balls. The truth is that not all communist governments are bad and not all capitalist ones are. France for example, a capitalist one, gives money to the poor of Paris as well as housing (tents) and food supplies. And the Soviet Union under Khruschev was not that bad. Nikita provided homes for the poor and reversed the asshole policies of Stalin.
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Post by pHEN on Jul 6, 2006 17:38:05 GMT -5
Celtic/Viking/Slavic tribal society > Southern European society at that time (tribal times) > being peed on > Flaming poo > England > Rome
The European diagram.
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Post by General Pang on Jul 6, 2006 17:40:59 GMT -5
Celtic/Viking/Slavic tribal society > Southern European society at that time (tribal times) > being peed on > Flaming poo > England > Rome The European diagram. I think what needs to happen is this: 1.) Immense population control 2.) Depopulation 3.) Breakdown of current nations; the reverse of centralization 4.) Small countries spread around earth 5.) Continued depopulation 6.) Elimination of currency 7.) Giving of plots of land to all of the remaining humans. 8.) Each human produces their own food and eats it, while at the same time they breed a surplus of animals in hatcheries, ranches, etc. in order to re-populate nature. 9.) Management of nature 10.) Perfection!
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Post by pHEN on Jul 6, 2006 17:58:56 GMT -5
You have the right idea, except the enslavement of nature, spreading of human waste, plotd of land, ranches, etc. As someone who empathizes heavily with nature, I think the idea of spreading human filth anymore than it is is appauling.
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Post by General Pang on Jul 6, 2006 18:25:10 GMT -5
You have the right idea, except the enslavement of nature, spreading of human waste, plotd of land, ranches, etc. As someone who empathizes heavily with nature, I think the idea of spreading human filth anymore than it is is appauling. Uh I thought I just said rebuilding of nature and reconstruction and such.
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Post by Sun Ce on Jul 6, 2006 18:42:11 GMT -5
The UK does the best it can after America fucked it over after the second world war. And where would the UK be without America during WWII? Last time I checked, Germany was handing them a steaming hot plate of whoop-ass, until America and the other Allied countries invaded Normandy. D-day? You're not gunna give us kudos for that? Thing is, you proudly admit you're ignorant, then go on saying how you hate Americans. How would anyone in their right mind listen to a proud ignorant person ramble about some country?
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