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Post by Sun Jian on Jun 14, 2006 15:54:47 GMT -5
The main street of the city - wide enough for armies to pass through, goes from north to south
Wu starting point
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Post by Sun Ce on Jun 14, 2006 19:18:47 GMT -5
*Sun Ce had received the word that Sun Jian was trapped in Xu Chang’s castle with his 750 men, but the castle was swarmed with Wei soldiers. It was, indeed, a grave situation. But Sun Jian and Sun Ce had been in much worse situations. Bofu recalled the attack on Yan Baihu, a much underrated tactician. He had sent one of his generals to engage Sun Ce in battle, and for the longest time there was a stalemate. They fought in a clearing for a day and a half, then finally the general called a retreat, leaving a small army for a rearguard.*
*Sun Ce had charged, knowing they were tired, hungry, and poorly defended. However, he was led into a confusing area filled with stone surrounding everywhere. They turned to run, but seemed to go in circles. Sun Jian came to aid, but also got lost in what seemed to be a valley where a rockslide or an earthquake affected it years before, and Yan Baihu used it as a tactical advantage. To overcome this, Sun Ce and Sun Jian regrouped, and the father and son led a breaking charge deep into enemy lines. It rallied their men, and they came out, by luck, behind Yan Baihu’s main force. Baihu was defended by little men, and was overrun and trampled to death.*
*That’s when it hit the Prince. To win, he’d have to drop tactical advantages in Xu Chang, and charge straight to Sun Jian, and unite with him. As together, the father and son were invincible. Beforehand, however, he turned to his men, who were now filing into three box formations around archers. He glanced back and forth, meeting eyes with Xilai Shao and Zhi Liang.*
“Men, I must keep this short. My father is in Xu Chang’s castle, and he is essential not only to a victory today, but many victories in the future. I have no doubt in my mind he can lead Wu and the Sun Family to greatness. There is no reason to take Xu Chang, that is not our goal today. Our goal is to save Sun Jian, and kill those that have betrayed us.
“I ask you not to fight my own war, but for the lord who we’ve served for the past ten years. We’ve won two separate campaigns, taken land in Jiang Dong as well as Xia Pi. Our military prowess keeps our economy strong, and our kingdom secure both on the battlefront and homefront. This is all because of Sun Jian. I am naught but a general. Now cavalry, follow Xilai Shao off the smaller roads. All else, come with me, we march down to the castle!”
*Sun Ce turned his white horse, charging straight north, towards the castle. Zhi Liang was steps behind, following closely, and the soldiers only a few steps behind them. They turned towards the castle, avoiding Cao Ang’s unit, heading for Guo Jia. Wind began to pick up, and lightning could be seen in the distance. Xu Chang was now torn from the inside, both kingdoms enraged at each other for what they thought was betrayal. Sun Ce spearheaded the soldiers outside the palace, spinning his Conqueror’s Spear over his head, hacking down men all around. Zhi Liang swung his Chrysamere like a madman, cutting a two-foot long gash across a rider of Wei, turning to lob off a swordsman’s head. The soldiers caught up, and began battle in the Palace courtyard.*
*Xilai Shao was coming around with his cavalry, they were on direct route to Cao Ang’s side. They met small resistance on the way, and would trample over them, weapons down, leaving none alive. Xilai was known for tearing the face off his famous kills, using the tail of his spear. His target was Cao Ang, first son of Cao Cao. If he could kill Ang, then that would be devastating not only to Wei, but to Cao Cao himself.*
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Post by Saerin Zei on Jun 16, 2006 9:53:40 GMT -5
~The Main Road of Xu Chang... It was then that he appeared, riding past the gates on a black steed taken from the stalls and with his men in tow. Not many, just those he had considered worthy of entering a battle to begin all. Though the situation itself did not show to his eyes, he was soon to find out the details while galloping towards Sun Ce who had ordered his own troops to start north for Cao Ang. It had seemed that the young ruler was hell bent on taking some lives today, although something had seemed to anger him… [glow=blue,2,300] ”Fool, his rash actions will get his army massacred!” [/glow] Gritting teeth against the very thought, Sae looked to his left to find a path which suddenly cut right in the distance. A side road. With a faint plan formulating in the back of his mind, Saerin whipped the obsidian horse about and waved a hand to the troops that followed his command. They were to head left and around the supposed Wei forces, any resistance met would be dealt with swiftly and without delay… [glow=blue,2,300] ”It seems our ‘Little Conqueror’ has been angered. Let us see to it that he does not perish in this battle, for our lord will take our own heads for his son’s safety…” [/glow] Stricken with a hard appeal, the voice pushed his forces to follow his lead as they wove about the buildings towards the left side of Xu Chang…
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Post by Guo Jia on Jun 18, 2006 6:59:26 GMT -5
Cao Ang and his men were storming southwards - reaching the northern most part of the main road. Cao Ang enthuesatic with a fast victory against Sun Ce's general was forcing his men forward to try and save the city, viscious fighting was hampering their efforts but the Wei men still advanced. 2000 Skirmishers ahead of 2000 Light swordsmen with 1000 Archers in the rear were trying to push forward as the main army of troops - 2000 Mounted Lancers were with Cao Ang, ahead of the main body of Wei troops, weaving in and out of the pockets of fighting stretching along the streets of Xu Chang. There was still hope yet to save the city.
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Post by Guo Jia on Jun 19, 2006 8:06:14 GMT -5
With no opposition on ther main street Cao Ang's men were making steady progress through the Wu men stationed there, all they were doing was slowing them down. Cao Ang looked back - his troops stretched back a long way, distracted by fighting along the way. Then he had reports come to him, were they true? he had no idea, but the people of his city were more likly to help him than hinder him... Sun Jian had apparently fallen, that was a start - but the Wu general Saerin Zei was coming round the south west side of the city, the people had informed him from through the residential district. All of a sudden there were 3 fronts to fight - Cao Ang redirecteced his troops as best he could.
1000 Skirmishers and 500 Light swordsmen were to continue fighting southwards,
1000 Mounted Lancers and 500 Light swordsmen were to move eastwards to try and save Guo Jia.
Cao Ang was to take the rest with him and safeguard their retreat. Cao Ang wasting no time sent his units off immidatly!
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Post by Saerin Zei on Jun 20, 2006 7:50:06 GMT -5
”Now!~ Without a pause, Saerin’s men crashed headlong into the forces of Cao Ang just as they came into the nortern most part of the main road. Formations being created within seconds of being commanded to attack the Wei forces. Ninja soldiers ran forth, swords gleaming in a ragged line formation which horizontally stretched across the streets, attacking before stepping backwards and letting the back line strike out. Archers following behind in rapid succession as their arrows whizzed through the air as another Archer took charge and shot also. A never-ending volley mixed with guerilla tactics.. (In short…) N – Ninja Solider (Your swordsmen ;P) A – Archer -N—N—N—N—N—N --N--N--N--N--N--N A---A---A---A---A---A---A A---A---A---A---A---A---A (The first line would strike down a few, then step back defensively, a moment later, the back line would surge forward and strike out. All the while, the Archers are rotating lines to keep with a constant volley.) Saerin, himself, leapt from his steep and proceeded to watch his lines keep steady. He lacked men, sure, but he had the tactics to back up the loss; Tactics which worked well against the odds. Such a line would strike out swiftly, and then pull back before an attack could be launched. Taking the faint opening of a weak counter, the back line would surge forward. It was all practiced and planned, and it would seem to be working well…
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Post by Guo Jia on Jun 20, 2006 10:52:33 GMT -5
(Well I already replied in the north - but your so outnumbered it dosen't really matter ;D)
Cao Ang was at the head of his troops, 1000 Mounted Lancers charged forward at the Wu troops, their escape wasen't going to be blocked by a handful of troops, as Can Ang raised his sword high up in the air he shouted a command to his troops, who broke off into 2 sections - each branching around the group of swordsmen, and pushing their way towards the edges.
Just before the lancers engaged a volley of 1000 arrows flew over their heads, launched from the bows of the archers behind them Cao Ang's men were quick to start reloading before their shots had even hit. Ahead of the bowmen were 1000 Light Swordsmen - these were advancing as well, to meet the frontline of Saerin Zei, the line stretched futher and began to work on the flanks with more ferocity.
Cao Ang and his lancers clashed with the lines of Saerin Zei, each group branched off and pushed their way past the Ninja swordsmen (What makes them nunja exactally?) Then once past the thin line the 1000 Lancers began to attack the vulnerable bowmen behind them, using their speed to get there quickly.
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Post by Sun Ce on Jun 20, 2006 11:20:58 GMT -5
(What are you talking about numbers matter. We outnumber Guo Jia like 50 to 1 in the palace right now, but he's still driving hard.)
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Post by Saerin Zei on Jun 20, 2006 19:32:41 GMT -5
(You underestimate me....let me discuss my formation further. First of all, they are ninja merely because of the outfits. xD Next, the formation is set for mere speed, nothing more. The way it was setup was to compensate for numbers. Lances themselves are known for lack of speed due to weight, my guys, being light swordsmen with lack of armor and only blades, could easily slip between and cut down a few men before leaping back and having the other line do the same, but in a different pattern. The pattern itself will differ for the sake of randomness. The archers themselves are aiming a little behind your front lines so they do not hit my own men, yet hit yours who would take up position after the first few fell...
People over-exaggerate the power of numbers. Numbers are nothing...they are just alot of people waiting to die xD)
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Post by Guo Jia on Jun 21, 2006 3:03:08 GMT -5
(....sooo you didn't actually do anything in that post ...K ;D
Well the lancers arn't staying around to fight melee with you - as you have a small loose formation they're just charging through and getting at the bowmen behind. The swordsmen are the ones that are going to be doing most the fighting - (Which are the same troops as yours) and theres more of them anyways, but the battle should be over soon, sooooo)
Cao Ang charges through the Wu lines and with his lancers starts picking on the bowmen behind.
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Post by Ba Zeng on Jun 21, 2006 4:21:53 GMT -5
(I'm just going to try to clear it up because I'm bored...First of all, Zei can't really have a loose formation because of the narrow streets. As stated they are 25 men wide. Zei's formation would be extremely effective against light, ordinary infantry. But against the mounted lancers Zei's men, who are unarmored, are pretty much screwed, even if the slip by the first line of lancers they'd get either stabbed of trampled by the next 4 lines. Since the street is narrow, 1000 Mounted Lancers charging through Zei's men would obliterate them. If the lances and bows didn't kill them, then they would've been crushed, trampled by the horses. To add onto that, Guo's archers shot just before the lancers engaged, leaving Zei's men, who can't guard against arrows, momentarily stunned. Guo might not even need the swordsmen unless there were an ambush somewhere in the alleys. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all of Zei's men died in that attack. The losses Guo suffered would probably only be from the continuing archer volleys and maybe 1-30 lucky slashes from the ninja infantry to the lancers. And a couple of Guo's own arrows hiting the first line of lancers. Plus, Zei's formation would have to be tight, and consist of like maybe 12 lines instead of 2 if he had all of his Hassassins.) (....Oh Yeah Zei, how do you pronounce Saerin? Just wondering...)
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Post by Er Aorong on Jun 21, 2006 4:41:12 GMT -5
Just to throw this in there, since the streets are as narrow as they are, once the horses trampled the people eventually they would trip on bodies and each other to the point it would bottleneck the street slowing down the charge so they wouldn't obliterate the infantry units, IMO.
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Post by Ba Zeng on Jun 21, 2006 4:56:09 GMT -5
(Thats probably part of the reason why they're trained...
But I guess eventually they might...not right away is pretty much what I'm saying. What the hell does IMO mean?)
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Post by Er Aorong on Jun 21, 2006 5:00:39 GMT -5
In My Opinion, 1000 treading down a street would end up causing a pile-up. I agree with the description and how it would help to avoid that from happening but it's simple numbers.
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Post by Saerin Zei on Jun 21, 2006 8:17:05 GMT -5
(I'm just going to try to clear it up because I'm bored...First of all, Zei can't really have a loose formation because of the narrow streets. As stated they are 25 men wide. Zei's formation would be extremely effective against light, ordinary infantry. But against the mounted lancers Zei's men, who are unarmored, are pretty much screwed, even if the slip by the first line of lancers they'd get either stabbed of trampled by the next 4 lines. Since the street is narrow, 1000 Mounted Lancers charging through Zei's men would obliterate them. If the lances and bows didn't kill them, then they would've been crushed, trampled by the horses. To add onto that, Guo's archers shot just before the lancers engaged, leaving Zei's men, who can't guard against arrows, momentarily stunned. Guo might not even need the swordsmen unless there were an ambush somewhere in the alleys. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if all of Zei's men died in that attack. The losses Guo suffered would probably only be from the continuing archer volleys and maybe 1-30 lucky slashes from the ninja infantry to the lancers. And a couple of Guo's own arrows hiting the first line of lancers. Plus, Zei's formation would have to be tight, and consist of like maybe 12 lines instead of 2 if he had all of his Hassassins.)(....Oh Yeah Zei, how do you pronounce Saerin? Just wondering...) (*Grins* My point exactly. I was right when I said two lines...I just never had the time to post the rest of my attack. ^_^ BTW, it is 'Say-Ren'.....ahem) ”Tehe, idiotic…” Slowly, Saerin raised his hand into the air just as his front lines engaged the said lancers. Within seconds, more Ninja suddenly appeared behind them, hacking away at the back of the unit as more bowmen poured in from the alleyways. Of course he knew he was outnumbered; there was no entering this battle without some form of a plan now was there? Figuring that Wei has vast numbers, Zei had split his force while on the move, so now he had only about two lines of both Archers and Ninja in the narrow street, the rest cut through the narrow alleys as they passed; Dancing and weaving through the paths until they reached the area to where he said to stop and wait for the signal. Now the signal had come, and his numbers were steadily pouring within the center of the ranks of Wei…
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